Advanced Trainers Find Depth at ClickerExpo

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ClickerExpo in Los Angeles in January was a hit. In fact, we sold out. Our limit was 400 attendees, and we filled up.

Every year at ClickerExpo we save a few spaces for special guests: distinguished trainers, scientists, or leaders in other fields. This year one of our honored guests was Sue Ailsby, a very well known clicker trainer and teacher from Canada. I'd like to share with you one of Sue's posts to the ClickerExpo list after ClickerExpo Los Angeles.

kay working with dog

Taking it home

The list discussion had turned to the training of herding dogs, and to a similar task, training the lead dog on a sled team for the sport called mushing. Sue opened this post by pointing out the key to training either type of work: teach the behaviors you need, and the cues for them, before you ever go out to do the job itself.

Sue writes: "I've done a lot of mushing, and a fair amount of herding. In my experience, the key to both of these is to train the behaviors you want before plugging them into the situation you want. A lead dog candidate, for instance, is taught left and right cues, go forward, go faster, slow down, stop, on by (never mind that small dog coming up on your left, keep going!), and to keep the lines taut—all before hitching to the sled, and certainly before adding any other teammates. Given a well-trained lead dog, most other dogs can simply be plugged into the team to take their cues from the lead as they learn ‘on the job.'"

Sue is presently training two dogs for another kind of competition, drafting, or pulling a cart. Again, this is a sport in which the cues need to be taught ahead of time, outside of the actual situation. Sue describes the training tasks:

"I am training one Portuguese water dog for a novice draft title, and another for an advanced draft title. For advanced (Draft Dog Excellent), the handler walks behind the cart and guides the dog solely by voice and/or signals. She must pull 60 pounds-forward, halt, slow, left turn, right turn, and halt. Maybe a 180, too."

Some people think ClickerExpo must be nice for beginners, but wouldn't benefit the really "advanced" trainer. My take is...maybe it depends just how advanced you really are!

Sue attended the ClickerExpo session on modifier cues (as in big vs. small, forward vs. back, paw vs. nose) taught by marine mammal expert Ken Ramirez. Just LOOK what this expert accomplished with this new information in the first WEEK after getting home from ClickerExpo!

"I'm having a great time teaching the directionals, especially since hearing Ken Ramirez' discussion of modifier cues. I started with the younger dog, and after a week she's progressed to Left/Right nosetouch, L/R pawtouch, L/R go to mat, L/R retrieve from different sides of the aisle at Wal-Mart, L/R jumps (which will make my agility coach happy; I've been putting off teaching her THAT for almost a year), L/R tunnels, and also I'm walking next to a series of posts and cueing her to go to the L or R of each pole we pass. So at this point, if she knew nothing at all about weave poles, she could do them on voice cue! LOTS of fun!"

Lots of fun, indeed! Some people think ClickerExpo must be nice for beginners, but wouldn't benefit the really "advanced" trainer. My take is...maybe it depends just how advanced you really are!

Happy clicking,

Karen Pryor

Notes: Sue Ailsby has been quoted with permission from the ClickerExpo Yahoo Group e-mail list, February 7, 2007. (The ClickerExpo list is open only to people who have been registered attendees at one or more KPCT ClickerExpo conferences.) For more about and by Sue Ailsby, who also breeds, shows, and clicker trains llamas, visit her website, www.dragonflyllama.com. For more about what YOU might learn at ClickerExpo, visit www.clickerexpo.com.

About the author Karen Pryor is the founder and CEO of Karen Pryor Clickertraining, and the author of many books including Don't Shoot the Dog. Learn more about Karen Pryor or read Karen's Letters online.
Jenny Ruth Yasi's picture

Sue Ailsby

I am a huge fan of Sue Ailsby! Sue, if you are reading this, THANK YOU for the training levels! Sue is funny and smart, and her "training levels" program that she has posted (for free) at www.dragonflyllama.com is a great foundations program for training a truly well rounded dog. I followed it with Tigerlily and it helped me organize our foundation training plan and make sure I wasn't missing any important areas. Sue's training blog was also very inspiring, because Stitch is just six months older than my waterdog so I enjoyed the benefit of Sue and Stitch's (often hilarious) experiences!

I wonder if Ken Ramirez has a post here about modifier cues? I'd love to read it.

I think the clicker expo is best for people who want a "well rounded" dog. Sue Ailsby is the epitome of that! I just came back from a great agility seminar, and many participants were busy talented people,training to win this game. But I saw some dogs I wouldn't want to live with! Not terribly well rounded in my opinion. And this made me remember one of my teachers telling me, "don't teach irrelevant behaviors! It's going to clog up her brain!" And I disagree. We love irrelevant behaviors! I love Tigerlily's clogged up brain! hahaha. Training in many sports like Sue does,(we've been training in service retrieving behaviors, agility, watersports, freestyle, therapy dog work, and prey distraction exercises, and Tigerlily is just over two years old) nurtures a calm, thinking, deeply intelligent dog. Thinking dogs like this are just incredibly fun to live with.I'm so glad I didn't become a one trick trainer. It's versatile trainers, people interested in cultivating the whole potential of their dogs, who (in my opinion) really get the most out of Clicker Expo.